Jen and her husband, Brandon, are founders of The Legacy Collective, a giving-community that granted more than a million dollars in its first year. Suzanne and Jen walk through the ins and outs of each of the nine Enneagram numbers, while Suzanne gives piercingly accurate insight on the motivations behind each personality type. Whether you’re a seasoned Ennea-thusiast or a complete newbie, you’re going to want to plug into this deep dive with Enneagram expert (and a Type 2 herself), Suzanne Stabile! Listen as we talk about Jen’s need to stand up for various social issues, her ability to embrace confrontation for what is just, and the emotional response to doing just that. For Threes, it's much more about status and appearances. Suzanne Stabile Gives Us a Primer What is The Enneagram? Two brand new episodes in our "For the Love of the Enneagram" series: First up, we dig down deep into the marrow of our favorite gold-star Acheivers (aka the Enneagram Threes) and I get to dish with my newfound friend and Ennea-twin, Lisa Whelchel. Whether you’re a seasoned Ennea-thusiast or a complete newbie, you’re going to want to plug into this deep dive with Enneagram expert (and a Type 2 herself), Suzanne Stabile! Plus, Suzanne shares how we can learn to use the Enneagram as the ultimate empathy tool, as it helps us listen to and treat others in the way that they need, not in the way that we need. Getting accurate results from these Enneagram tests. Suzanne and Jen agree that knowing yourself and others through identifying your type can revolutionize our relationships with our spouses, parents, kids, friends, coworkers—everyone.
Suzanne and Jen walk through the ins and outs of each of the nine Enneagram numbers, while Suzanne gives piercingly accurate insight on the motivations behind each personality type. But the difference is that an average eight wants to get their way pretty fast because they just don't want to waste time. Jen is the happy hostess of a tightly knit online community where she reaches millions of people each week through her blog, social media channels, and her newest project, the "For the Love" podcast where she interviews beloved friends, thought-leaders, and change-makers each week on topics near and dear to her heart. And be sure to check out the whole series featuring a deep dive into every number type over 9 episodes! Timothy Keller Sermons Podcast by Gospel in Life A bold and dynamic Enneagram type deserves TWO bold and dynamic guests to help us understand what really makes the Enneagram Eight tick.

Good people of the internet and faithful For the Love listeners—you’ve asked, we’ve listened, and we are *thrilled* to invite you to our brand-new series on one of our favorite topics: The Enneagram personality assessment! In today’s episode, we discuss the similarities and differences of Threes and Eights and how that manifests under the umbrella of fighting for justice and grace. They'll compete for dominance, but it's less about social or status issues, it's more about power. This personality test is marked by its unique (and ancient) principles that help us better understand ourselves. Threes are less interested in having the power rather they are more interested in being admired by others. And be sure to check out the whole series featuring a deep dive into every number type over 9 episodes! Plus, Suzanne shares how we can learn to use the Enneagram as the ultimate empathy tool, as it helps us listen to and treat others in the way that they need, not in the way that we need. They're not afraid to get into an argument, but they're like, "Whatever, I just want to get the power and the control in the room here a little bit or in life." ‎The next stop on the For the Love of The Enneagram train takes us to the land of the Enneagram Threes (also known as The Achievers). As our conversation continued I began to think, “Man, you’ve got a lot of features of an Eight. Jen spends much of her time speaking at conferences and events all around the country.
Jen and Brandon live in Austin, Texas with their 5 kids and dog, Lady Bird, in a 1910-era farmhouse (with extremely questionable plumbing) that they overhauled as stars of the HGTV series, My Big Family Renovation. Leading us today are two Threes—someone you may know named Jen Hatmaker who’s a Three, and Lisa Whelchel. Jen Hatmaker, is a highly sought-after speaker and beloved author of eleven Bible studies and books, including the New York Times Bestselling books For the Love and her most recent work, Of Mess and Moxie. Lisa’s an actor (you … Try not to answer them in terms of how you would like to see yourself, but in terms of how you actually are, or have tended to be in the past. Holy Moses, do I have something special to share with you rabid Enneanimals today! I wonder if you should check out this other type.”  Threes and Eights are both assertive, ambitious, and competitive. Suzanne and Jen agree that knowing yourself and others through identifying your type can revolutionize our relationships with our spouses, parents, kids, friends, coworkers—everyone. To learn more about Jen, check out her website at


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